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Obama praises India for crash-landing a flag on the moon

Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:47 AM EST
world-news, obama, arizona, nasa, illegal-immigrants, moon-landing, obama-india-trip
By Roryanne
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When speaking in India, the President of the United States, tells the India citizens how advanced in science and technology they are by saying, "from the supercomputers you developed to the Indian flag you put on the moon."

India sent an unmanned lunar probe that crash-landed near the Moon's south pole. It carried the image of the Indian national flag painted on all sides of the probe.

The United States sent Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, and Mike Collins into lunar orbit, and two of those astronauts landed, and walked on the moon in 1969...

...but tells NASA it is now relegated to muslim outreach.

Former NASA chief said, "NASA was chartered by the 1958 Space Act to develop the arts and sciences of flight in the atmosphere and in space and to go where those technologies will allow us to go. That’s what NASA does for the country. It is a perversion of NASA’s purpose to conduct activities in order to make the Muslim world feel good about its contributions to science and mathematics.”

Read more of what Michael Griffin had to say at the Washington Examiner.

Two important quotes come to mind as I read and hear what Obama tells the world through his actions and his words:

"That's one small step for man; one giant leap for mankind." ~ Neil A. Armstrong, US Astronaut; first man to walk on the moon.

To Arizona citizens being murdered by illegal immigrants cross the border into the US, Obama says, "Adios, amigos".

Actually, Obama's brilliant choice of words were spoken in response to his own outrage at the governor of Arizona for wanting to do what Obama was elected to do, and that is to protect the citizens of his country.

Instead let the illegal immigrants know he is on their side, instead of on the side of the citizens in the country he is supposed to be leading.

How much money was wasted on this trip to India again? We could have sent another spaceflight to the moon.

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Roryanne

He also mumbled something about American not being held accountable for some nonsense or other. So this really is Part Two of his Magical Apology Tour.

  • 9 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:51 AM EST
lee_atwater

Brought to you by the anti christ.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:47 AM EST
Roryanne

Don't they say that the anti-Christ will try to disguise himself as something he's not? And he's not hiding anything.

That's the difference between me and you. I don't think he's intelligent or clever enough to be the anti-Christ. You think he's your messiah.

  • 8 votes
#1.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:55 AM EST
Plantsmantx

How much money was wasted on this trip to India again?

I don't know...how much?:)

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:09 PM EST
trm2008

I don't know...how much?:)

Eleventy billion--at least that's what FOX is reporting.

  • 11 votes
#1.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:42 PM EST
Roryanne

He could apologize for big bad America via satellite and it wouldn't cost us money.

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:58 PM EST
Polka14

It is good to apologize for one's actions. America should not consider itself to be too good to apologize. If I was president, I would apologize for America's misdeeds too.

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:00 PM EST
Roryanne

Depends on who and what he's apologizing for, and the constant bowing doesnt' help his image either.

  • 5 votes
#1.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:09 PM EST
Polka14

He could lose the bowing but he should apologize for years of terrible foreign policy, two wars of aggression and the loss of our moral standings. We have much to apologize for.

  • 7 votes
#1.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:18 PM EST
Little Sure Shot

Actually, Obama's brilliant choice of words were spoken in response to his own outrage at the governor of Arizona for wanting to do what Obama was elected to do

And let us not forget him standing dick to dick with his new BFF Calderon whose own immigration laws are even stricter than ours and those AZ wants, backing up that POS in his condemnation.

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:24 PM EST
Roryanne

The best was when Calderon badmouthed AZ and our Congress cheered. That could be the only reason people needed to vote them out.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:27 PM EST
Roryanne

The bowing, accompanied by the apologizing, has not made him anymore popular around the world, than its made him with Americans.

He keeps trying things that aren't working over and over again. I think they call that insanity.

People are tired of the anti-war stuff too. Even celebrities who still try to push the blue-smurf murdering agenda from Avatar, aren't making hits with moviegoers at the box office.

Avatar was a hit, probably because of the pretty colors, but Cameron losing the award to his wife, and Streisand having to hand it to her, is almost worth hearing her whine about the war as travels around in jets. That was worth sitting through the long-windered Oscars last year.

I think it really died out when Kerry lost to Bush. I think the baby-killer garbage did him in big time.

  • 1 vote
#1.11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 11:28 PM EST
tangojones

The best was when Calderon badmouthed AZ and our Congress cheered.

That was a defining moment for the dems. I went from despising the left, to something infinitely worse.

  • 2 votes
#1.12 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 4:15 PM EST
Roryanne

I guess they thought the rest of the country would stand against Arizona, as our own president does, but he was wrong.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 4:27 PM EST
Reply
ReyRik

When speaking in India, the President of the United States, tells the India citizens how advanced in science and technology they are by saying, "from the supercomputers you developed to the Indian flag you put on the moon."

I don't know about you, but when a second world country has the technology and the funds to send something to the moon, it is an accomplishment worth acknowledgement.

Actually, Obama's brilliant choice of words were spoken in response to his own outrage at the governor of Arizona for wanting to do what Obama was elected to do, and that is to protect the citizens of his country.

The difference between Brewer and Obama is that Brewer tries to 'protect' America's citizens through racial profiling. It's hard for Obama not to do the same without racial profiling with people like you opposing everything he does.

How much money was wasted on this trip to India again? We could have sent another spaceflight to the moon.

The cost of this trip was greatly over exaggerated.

From this article, its hard to believe anyone could be so bigoted.

  • 16 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:17 AM EST
trm2008

From this article, its hard to believe anyone could be so bigoted.

Funny, I'm not surprised at all.

  • 8 votes
#2.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:07 PM EST
Plantsmantx

Neither am I, trm.

  • 6 votes
#2.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:10 PM EST
Dennis P McCann

Obama praises India for crash-landing a flag on the moon

Cool.

  • 6 votes
#2.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:02 PM EST
Roryanne

If you guys admit to being liberal weenies, I won't think any less of you.

I couldn't...no really...I couldn't.

  • 2 votes
#2.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:41 PM EST
lifeinaraindrop

Roryanne knows exactly how to add words of wisdom and intelligentsia to a debate!

  • 3 votes
#2.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 4:55 PM EST
JoMan

Can someone who starts a seed constantly break CoH and continue to post seeds and not have their articles deleted? How can this be solved? Anyone?

  • 3 votes
#2.6 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:01 AM EST
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Tyler Durden-330839

Roryanne, India's ability to put a flag on the moon means they can also put a nuke in your backyard.

Petty as usual.

Dorme bene.

  • 5 votes
#3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:29 AM EST
Tyler Durden-330839

Ps India is 80% Hindu.

You find those WMDs yet??

  • 7 votes
#3.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:34 AM EST
Roryanne

Oh, that reminds me, Obama also told India that we reduced our nuclear arsenal. In a private meeting he may have given them our nuclear football, but who knows?

What's your point?

Obama apparently doesn't know that India is 80% Hindu. He visited a Muslim shrine, but has yet to visit a Hindu shrine.

Obama also thinks it's petty that our enemies have nuclear capabilities, while we dismantle ours.

What country is Obama the president of again? Seems I constantly need reminding, and so does he, that he is the president of the United States.

  • 9 votes
#3.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:41 AM EST
greg-709692

@ tyler:

There is a difference between "placing" and "crashing" a flag on the moon.

AS far as "Super Computors", they're a bit behind the times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2906865.stm

India began developing supercomputers in the late 1980s after being refused one by the US.

They have a hard time stopping over crowding on buses and trains causing "Crash Deaths".

  • 6 votes
#3.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:52 AM EST
Tyler Durden-330839

The CCCP starved it's people while it amassed enough weapons to destroy this place 100 times over.

Besides, if they aimed for Washington and hit Philadelphia, would it really matter?

  • 4 votes
#3.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:17 AM EST
greg-709692

India is more worried about Pakistan.

I have Indian Friends.

They hate Pakistan!

  • 3 votes
#3.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:20 AM EST
Roryanne

Tyler why don't you try getting the point of the message.

Everytime Obama opens his mouth and mentions America, it's never good. That's the point.

I'm not putting India down for crash landing an unmanned probe on the moon in 2008. I don't think you need to worry about them putting a nuke in your yard.

On May 30, 1966 Surveyor 1 made a soft landing on the Moon. (US)

If I were you, I would be worried about the other nutjobs Obama coddles to, who are actually developing nuclear capabilities, and are threatening to wipe Israel and the West off the map.

  • 5 votes
#3.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:25 AM EST
Roryanne

And Tyler, stop trying to make yourself sound more knowledgable.

This post has nothing to do with Reagan. It has to do with what Obama has done to NASA.

If you have any questions about what someone thinks of what Obama did to NASA, read the quote from the former chief of NASA, in the post, and you'll get your answer. Former US astronauts who flew into space, feel the same way. I think I'll agree with them, and not you if you don't mind.

  • 6 votes
#3.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:50 AM EST
trm2008

And Tyler, stop trying to make yourself sound more knowledgable.

Tyler makes it look effortless. :-)

  • 6 votes
#3.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:43 PM EST
Roryanne

Then why did he miss the point of the post?

You follow me no matter where I comment. Is that because you think you know everything? I have yet to come to that conclusion.

Your smiley face is cute:

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  • 3 votes
#3.9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:18 PM EST
Roryanne

Why did Obama to that? You're so wise, can you explain why he did that?

Because, US Astronauts who are responsible for those early US manned flights disagree with Obama, and I'm fairly certain they are smarter than you are.

And I don't think they're racists or bigots.

  • 4 votes
#3.10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:23 PM EST
trm2008

gee--I'm impressed. LMAO Someone has way too much time on their hands.

  • 6 votes
#3.11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:27 PM EST
Roryanne

Unlike you who spends most of their time calling people racists and bigots...you need to have a thesaurus in your hand and use different words.

Facepalm's a copy and paste. Picard's been disgusted since Obama relegated NASA as well. LOL I know you don't understand jokes, but that was one.

  • 1 vote
#3.12 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:39 PM EST
trm2008

If the shoe fits...

I don't need someone to give me an opinion. Its a shame that you do.

I understand jokes, that's why I'm posting on this thread.

  • 5 votes
#3.13 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST
Roryanne

Racists and bigots see racism everywhere because they base their assumptions on race or religion.. Normal people do not.

Normal people also do not disagree with everything someone says, but still engage in conversation with them.

Social outcasts do both of those things.

  • 2 votes
#3.14 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:08 PM EST
trm2008

You're way too hard on yourself. I wouldn't call you a social outcast, just a little overly emotional. LOL

  • 7 votes
#3.15 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:12 PM EST
Roryanne

I am also a mature adult, unlike those from my other post who are now going around and collapsing my comments from posts, have fun in your sandbox!

  • 2 votes
#3.16 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:28 PM EST
IronLung

I am also a mature adult

False. One only needs to go to your profile and read your comments over the past week to see that this claim of yours is misleading.

  • 3 votes
#3.17 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:32 PM EST
Little Sure Shot

I love that picture in #3.9 because it reminds me of the good old days when you could create pictures on an old fashioned typewriter. I know that it is easier on a computer, but it is just not as much fun.

    #3.18 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:30 PM EST
    Roryanne

    I copied and pasted that, but it is neat looking isn't it.

    The pictures of facepalms are funny, but I like the one I found better.

      #3.19 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:36 PM EST
      Jon Chicago

      You people, including myself at this point, are empowering this person (Rory) to continue her hate filled rants.

      If you don't want to hear the rants, don't read the posts and ignore the author. After a while, she will see she is no longer getting the attention and move on.

      This is exactly what we as Americans, free and independent, should be doing to all of these fear mongers. Change the channel.

      There is no use in trying to use reason with people who are convinced otherwise and refuse to even see another point of view. Sadly, many of our politicians are following this same path.

      Nothing personal.

      • 4 votes
      #3.20 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 4:01 PM EST
      IronLung

      You people, including myself at this point, are empowering this person (Rory) to continue her hate filled rants.

      Let her keep going. A) she has the right, B) it is amazingly entertaining. The more she types, the more of a embarrassment she becomes. I love it. Sometimes it's fun to sit back and watch the train fly off the rails.

      • 5 votes
      #3.21 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 4:30 PM EST
      Jon Chicago

      @Ironlung - True

      • 4 votes
      #3.22 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:59 PM EST
      Reply
      Roryanne

      Call me a bigot and a racist all you want. I guess the former chief at NASA is also a bigot. You believe every citizen of Arizona is a racist, well except for the ones who have been kidnapped by illegal immigrants. You think Brewer's a bigot...it's an old argument, and it's not working.

      Obama isn't trying to protect the citizens of the US; Brewer is, and THAT's the difference between the governor and the PO...I thought the US, but he hasn't shown that yet. Maybe he'll start acting like the US president, before his term is up. Right now most of us are in a wait and see mode.

      Nice that India advanced in science and technology, while some of their children are drinking sewer water and eating garbage in the streets. That's happening in poor cities in the US, but Obama doesn't concern himself with such things.

      From your comment, it's hard to believe anyone could be so naive, simply because they view Obama as their messiah.

      The rest of us are still waiting for him to actually do something to help the country, so good luck with your quest for finding something Obama has done yet to benefit the country he swore to protect and defend.

      P.S. Even people who voted for Obama's hope and change and yes we can, are sorry they were duped.

      Others, are not big enough to admit when they were wrong. Apparently, you are one of them.

      • 9 votes
      Reply#4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:29 AM EST
      ReyRik

      Thank you for your honesty. Although it would be appropriate for me to argue with you, I can say that you have different feelings than me, on almost the entire spectrum. This is one problem America has, that we demonstrate, which is the inability to get along, and accept each others ideas. As long as we have this problem, America will never be fixed, with anybody's strategies.

      • 6 votes
      #4.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 11:37 AM EST
      Roryanne

      When someone starts out every converstion with:

      RACIST RACIST RACIST BIGOT!

      it makes it difficult to believe you think any problem can be solved.

      • 1 vote
      #4.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:26 PM EST
      IronLung

      I can't find where anyone called you a racist.

      • 5 votes
      #4.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:15 PM EST
      JoMan

      Shhhhh It's another voice in her head.

      • 3 votes
      #4.4 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:04 AM EST
      Reply
      sebastiano

      Good column! It should be no surprise that Obama wants to pervert the mission NASA as some sort of outreach program...these are the same people who want to use the military as a type of "meals on wheels". His intent is to make America less strong, less a beacon of light and more of a team member of the world community. What he forgets is that most of the world wants us to lead.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:32 AM EST
      Roryanne

      I don't think he's forgotten it; he doesn't want America to lead. It's definitely part two of his apology tour.

      It's all part of Obama's dumbing down of America and the dumping on America tour.

      • 5 votes
      #5.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 8:50 AM EST
      Reply
      lee_atwater

      Roryanne....The preacher of gloom and doom.

      • 10 votes
      Reply#6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:04 AM EST
      Roryanne

      Obama's speeches are gloom and doom...for America

      • 4 votes
      #6.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:05 AM EST
      Tyler Durden-330839

      No just for the Reagan legacy.

      Ketchup as a vegetable.

      Iran /Contra

      Oh yeah, Bitburg.

      • 6 votes
      #6.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:11 AM EST
      Roryanne

      I have a big problem with the govt handouts. If you don't work for what you want, why should we pay for it?

      The ketchup guy lost to Bush, what's your point?

      • 4 votes
      #6.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:14 AM EST
      Tyler Durden-330839

      Are you are under 35 years old, Roryanne?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup_as_a_vegetable

      • 6 votes
      #6.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:20 AM EST
      Roryanne

      I know what you're talking about...is that any worse than taking salt off the tables in restaurants? Is it worse than SF banning Happy Meal Toys to stop the fat kids from eating cheesburgers? Is it any worse than CA voting to encourage children to smoke pot?

      I don't buy Heinz ketchup, and I consider ketchup to be what you would put on fries, not fruit, at fast food restaurants.

      Are you over 18, Tyler Durden-330839?

      • 4 votes
      #6.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:29 AM EST
      IronLung

      Are you over 18, Tyler Durden-330839?

      Why are you so obsessed with people's ages?

      • 3 votes
      #6.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:16 PM EST
      Little Sure Shot


      I don't buy Heinz ketchup

      Neither do I to include all Heinz products because I refuse to let one penny of my money go in the pockets of Scary Kerry and his wife Ms Heinz 57. Besides, their ketchup is runny. Hunts products are way better anyway.

        #6.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:37 PM EST
        Reply
        max4

        Oh boy. Do people even read anything scientific anymore? Indian moon mission spacecraft chandrayaan was also carrying a RADAR from NASA that found water on the moon, for the first time.

        Read here:

        http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/Mini-RF/multimedia/feature_ice_like_deposits.html

        • 6 votes
        Reply#7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:21 AM EST
        Roryanne

        Oh, brother, my point is that NASA will not be able to send man back to the moon or on to Mars, now that their top priority is to advance muslims in space.

        • 5 votes
        #7.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:30 AM EST
        max4

        Oh brother. India has 85% Hindu population and a very secular government system.

        • 7 votes
        #7.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:40 AM EST
        Roryanne

        I never said India has a large population of muslims.

        My point was that Obama praises India's science and technology advances, but downgrades NASA, who is responsible for the most scientific and technological advances in the world.

        It's not so much a muslim thing, it's a dumb down and degrade America thing.

        Plus the 'making American accountable' was a nice touch, and typical of Obama.

        • 3 votes
        #7.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:46 AM EST
        max4

        Brother, you started the article with "...and tells NASA, it is now relegated to muslim outreach."

        • 4 votes
        #7.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:53 AM EST
        Roryanne

        There you go; I moved the sentence that drew you here.

        • 1 vote
        #7.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:57 AM EST
        DogonCrook

        now that their top priority is to advance muslims in space.

        You make the statement, and show a comment, but you do not show any evidence that is the case. What are you talking about? What makes you think that NASA is relegated to muslim outreach? Because of a comment?

        • 4 votes
        #7.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:36 PM EST
        Roryanne

        You comment and rail against this post, but you didn't read it.

        You did not show any evidence of reading the post, if you did not see the QUOTES by Michael Griffin WITHIN the post. Not a comment someone made. Obama said it to the NASA administrator.

        What are you talking about this post for, if you did not read it?

        • 1 vote
        #7.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:50 PM EST
        DogonCrook

        I read it, you are not trying to supply any information, just a bunch of inflamatory accusations. Whats the value of this article? Whats your point? I don't care who made the comments, why wouldn't you discuss in the article, the issue you are referring to? What does Arizona have to do with NASA?

        • 4 votes
        #7.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:58 PM EST
        Roryanne

        So, the former chief of NASA is ALSO a liar?

        All of your questions are answered in the post. If you don't want to bother reading it, why comment on it? That's just silly and childish.

        READ the Post. I can't do all your thinking for you.

        • 1 vote
        #7.9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:04 PM EST
        DogonCrook

        Oh ok a fmr NASA chief said Obama is pandering to muslims. I get it, Obama hates america and loves muslims, informative article keep up the good work, very compelling arguments. The adios comment also nicely summarizes Obama's pandering to muslims, and definately deserves mention. My point is it doesn't sound like you want to discuss any issues, using evidence to back up your arguments. Sounds like you just want to incite an argument to me.

        • 4 votes
        #7.10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:13 PM EST
        IronLung

        This is a bigoted statement:

        now that their top priority is to advance muslims in space

        Helping India is not "advancing Muslims in space"

        • 6 votes
        #7.11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 6:17 PM EST
        Little Sure Shot

        It came out a while back that the head of NASA was being regulated to promote Muslim relations by Obama. I don't think it included launching them, but if a Muslim qualifies for the space program on an even playing field with other applicants, then by all means they should have the chance to go into space as long as it is mutually beneficial to the science and not a personal agenda. I doubt the head of NASA ever envisioned that with all of his knowledge and experience that he would be so disrespected in this manner. Let one of the many useless czars be the promoters and let NASA do what it does best, takingus into the future by reaching out to other worlds through advanced space technology.

          #7.12 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:51 PM EST
          Roryanne

          Exactly, Obama thinks it's the Cold War again, and he's given the other side the head start.

          I can't believe he scrapped the Constellation Program. I sat listening to his speech and I was floored.

            #7.13 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 11:01 PM EST
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            Bad Fish

            India is asking for a trillion dollars to upgrade infrastructure in the next 5 years. I was thinking we keep the money and bring our manufacturing jobs back home. Maybe President Obama could stop by the dell computers technical support call center and help a few customers out with their old pc's. I am sure the customers would welcome the good English.

            • 3 votes
            Reply#8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:23 AM EST
            Roryanne

            Why would Obama start now to try to fix all he's done in two short years? I have a feeling things with Obama in charge, are about to get a LOT worse.

            • 1 vote
            #8.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:33 AM EST
            Reply
            Monticello Sage

            Reading so much bigoted nonsense, both in the article itself, and, in some of the comments here, make me happy to have left the US to live abroad. The word "xenophobia" comes to mind.

            I think President Obama is in over his head, and is doing a terrible job of managing our nation's domestic situation, but, I do support his outreach to other nations, so long as it is done within the context of a balanced federal budget.

            The former NASA scientist who slammed Obama for helping Muslim nations with their space programs, should have been more worried about how much money we are borrowing from China, in order to be so "generous".

            My experience living abroad in a modern Asian nation which has a secular Muslim government, showed me that most human beings are kind an decent. Most Muslims are peaceful people.

            India is mostly Hindu, not Muslim, which seems to be lost on the ignorant author of this rant wich poses as an article.

            • 4 votes
            #9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:48 AM EST
            Roryanne

            which seems to be lost on the ignorant author of this rant wich poses as an article

            The point of this post was not how many muslims there are ANWHERE, and that very point seems to be most lost on the ignorant person who uttered the above quoted text.

            I care about what you think of me or my post, about as much as I do about where you live.

            My experience being born and raised in the United States, the greatest country in the world, shows me that the countries who hate us, hate us because of our freedom. Americans are basically good, and the most charitable people in the world.

            My feelings aren't hurt from what you said about me or my country.

            My policy has always been that our gates swing both ways, and you can leave anytime you feel like it. How's that supposed to bother me?

            I see that leaving in a secular, peaceful nation hasn't really taught you how to be tactful, subtle, or how to participate in a conversation. And I can't recall the last time America stoned a woman to death for having an affair, so...

            in other words, taking it back to the sixties, "Love it or Leave it". Thanks for doing just that already.

              #9.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 11:07 AM EST
              JoMan

              ..... in the United States, the greatest country in the world,

              Actually... even though I love my country and I'm glad I live here, we are not the greatest. Unless you mean that in a personal metaphysical way.

              http://www.prosebeforehos.com/image-of-the-day/04/20/america-were-not-1/

              • 2 votes
              #9.2 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:13 AM EST
              LadyLis

              I too love my country, and I'm also glad to live here. However, we need to get off our high horse and quite thinking we are better than the rest of world. Country's don't hate us because of our freedoms they dislike us because of our arrogance, and the elites (corporate or political) who think they can do what they want in other countries. You don't see another country's military based stationed in the U.S., but you'll find many U.S. military bases around the world.

              Also, why shouldn't the President show respect to a foreign leader in THEIR country. It doesn't make our president weak, or look like an ass. We shouldn't hold every other country as @!$%# stuck to the bottom of America's expensive shoe.

              • 3 votes
              #9.3 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 12:59 PM EST
              Roryanne

              That's your opinion of American and American citizens. I stated mine.

              Obama believes what you believe. Strange he ran for POTUS at all, though isn't it?

                #9.4 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:01 PM EST
                Polka14

                Also, why shouldn't the President show respect to a foreign leader in THEIR country

                He should show respect but he should not act like any foreign leader is above him. Our President is EQUAL to all foreign leaders. Their respect should be shown as mutual.

                • 4 votes
                #9.5 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:04 PM EST
                Roryanne

                Country's don't hate us because of our freedoms

                Yes, countries that hate us, hate us for the freedom we enjoy and take for granted!

                All you're doing is repeating what you heard Obama say during his Magical Apology Tour.

                  #9.6 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:44 PM EST
                  LadyLis

                  All you're doing is repeating what you heard Obama say during his Magical Apology Tour.

                  There goes your assumption again. I didn't see his apology speech, so how am I repeating something I didn't hear? We are not the only nation on this damn planet.

                  And Polka you're right they should be treated as equals.

                  • 4 votes
                  #9.7 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST
                  Roryanne

                  We are however the only nation with people breaking our laws to get in. How many millions is it now?

                  You assume there was only one speech. I provided the link of apologies.

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.8 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:29 PM EST
                  LadyLis

                  These are my own opinions and observations from reading news articles, international news, etc.
                  People are coming here to have opportunities, does it mean they hate us? Who knows, we would have to ask every single person. It could be the free market and trade agreements that has led them to come here for jobs, because farmers and other industries couldn't compete in the market.

                  We need to deconstruct why other nations don't like us, but I'm pretty sure it's not our freedoms, but our policies.

                  • 4 votes
                  #9.9 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 5:40 PM EST
                  JoMan

                  That's your opinion of American and American citizens. I stated mine.

                  Obama believes what you believe. Strange he ran for POTUS at all, though isn't it?

                  Opinions are opinions, facts are facts. My link leads to facts, but when tea baggers are having a back-slappin' party speaking in concrete realities is pointless.

                  We are however the only nation with people breaking our laws to get in.

                  For example... that statement is another lie.

                  It's obvious here that someone sits around with there head stuck in the Fox News sand and needs to come up for air more.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.10 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 8:45 PM EST
                  Roryanne

                  When bleeding heart 'I deserve it ALL for free" liberals use the teabagger one, they've already lost the debate.

                  When bleeding heart 'I deserve it all for free" liberals use the teabagger word, addressing someone who is not a member of the Tea Party Movement, that's worth a good laugh or two. Plus it's pathetic.

                  It's obvious, by whose currently sitting in the oval office, that some didn't have a clue about the person they voted for, except that Yes We Can! sounded cute, at the time.

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.11 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 9:57 PM EST
                  JoMan

                  liberals use the teabagger word

                  I'm sorry, I clearly meant dirt bagger.

                  I deserve it all liberals??? haha That cracks me up. I live right in the middle of enemy territory.... that would be conservative city USA. I've never heard more whining and complaining from a group of people that don't want to give anything for anyone or anything to help or improve themselves, their families, their communities... nothing!

                  One example: I'm involved in the recycle program our city started. We are the only ones with the container as far as you can see up and down are area for blocks and blocks. My neighbors all complain that they were going to have to pay $5 a month to participate in the program. Whine whine whine. I told them I was happy to do something to support my city and to assist in starting new jobs for our community. That is just one example, there are many more. They want the local roads, bridges, shops, etc... all fixed up, plants planted, city areas mowed and picked up... but won't give a dang thing toward taxes or donations - or get off their lazy no good asses to volunteer. They sit at home, criticize their neighbors, point at liberals and say everything is there fault and they do nothing. The party of nothing, the party of no.

                  Give me a break. Liberals "I deserve it all for free" That's just the opposite. Conservatives are the ones that think they are entitled - they have the elitist attitudes. They are the ones that expect everything for nothing. They are dragging our communities, our cities and our Country down.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.12 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 10:41 PM EST
                  Roryanne

                  Conservatives only feel as those they deserved it, because they worked for it.

                  The whining you hear has to do with allowing clueless people to vote in 2008.

                  Did I say clueless?

                  The only dirtbags who expect to get everything for free, like the mortgages and gas Obama promised, HAVE to be liberal. It's been that way for a very, very long time.

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.13 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 10:54 PM EST
                  JoMan

                  Still a lot of hot air and not facing my facts or your lies:

                  We are however the only nation with people breaking our laws to get in

                  Too bad boyfriend Beck continues to lie to his enamored minions.

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.14 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST
                  DogonCrook

                  When bleeding heart 'I deserve it ALL for free" liberals use the teabagger one, they've already lost the debate

                  No weird hypocrisy here.

                  • 3 votes
                  #9.15 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:15 AM EST
                  Roryanne

                  Funny how some view returning an insult WITH an insult, as hypocrisy.

                  Hmm...must be nice to be special...is that a liberal gene thing? Or does the ACLU give you the right to view it in that manner.

                  JoMan: Turn on the news every so often and you might find out what's going on in Arizona; American citizens being murdered and kidnapped by illegal immigrants, breaking the law by illegally crossing the border.

                  The definition of a lie is not everything that someone says, that you have never heard about. People who say that should actually see what's going on that others are talking about before saying, lie! lie! lie!

                  Look it up for yourself.

                  boyfriend Beck

                  How mature!

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.16 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:16 AM EST
                  JoMan

                  Still not addressing your lie: We are however the only nation with people breaking our laws to get in. Still trumping us all with mature come backs....

                  • 2 votes
                  #9.17 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:57 PM EST
                  Roryanne

                  Tell me honestly that you are not aware of the illegal immigrants flooding into Arizona?

                  Unless you think sneaking into a country is not illegal?

                  Go read about what other countries do if you sneak into their country.

                  It's not a lie. You're just misinformed. Arizona, for crying out loud is probably the biggest story this year, besides the HCR bill. How could you be unaware of it?

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.18 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:29 PM EST
                  Reply
                  Polka14

                  India should work harder to solve its problems with overpopulation, poverty and terrorism before it works to mimic America's greatest accomplishments. India has no reason to spend time, money and resources for this useless stunt.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:09 PM EST
                  Roryanne

                  Especially when children are kidnapped and sold. Poor children are looking for garbage in the streets and drinking sewer water as well. If he wanted to make nice over there, he should have offereed the amount of money he spent on the trip, to the children who have absolutely nothing. Same goes for children here in America.

                  Some of the poorest people live in the deep south and other cities around the country, but Obama's main concern isn't America. I think he's proven that time and time again.

                  You're right Polka14, it is a useless stunt.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:01 PM EST
                  Polka14

                  Well, at least we agree that India's main concern is their own people and not trying to appear like a superpower.

                  • 1 vote
                  #10.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:03 PM EST
                  Roryanne

                  Obama's representation of the US makes us look like anything but...even though we are. Same could be said of Obama...taking care of his own first, than speading those apologies and bows around afterwards.

                    #10.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:15 PM EST
                    Polka14

                    We should not be a "superpower", we should be an exceptional republic that values freedom and equality. Anything less is deserving of an apology. India's problems are not our own, and we should not concern ourselves with their cultural or economic troubles.

                    • 3 votes
                    #10.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:19 PM EST
                    Little Sure Shot

                    They should also round up all the damned cows and put them out to pasture somewhere instead of letting them roam the streets. They are a nuisance given free rein to disrupt traffic and forage in the market places unabated. I understand that they are sacred to the Indians, but have they never heard the expression "worship from afar"?

                      #10.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:56 PM EST
                      Reply
                      Chief CRD

                      praises India for crash-landing a flag on the moon

                      ..crash landed an Indian flag on the moon. No wonder tech support sucks, they just get it good enough to go, but not under control...

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:28 PM EST
                      Roryanne

                      unmanned probes usually do that. Not the point anyway.

                      Their space technology is praised by the POTUS, technology in the coutry he's supposed to be leading, gets relegated.

                      That's the point.

                        #11.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:02 PM EST
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                        Jarandhel

                        ..crash landed an Indian flag on the moon. No wonder tech support sucks, they just get it good enough to go, but not under control...

                        Ok, seriously, I realize it's not actually the point of the article (that being Obama-bashing) but you guys do realize that this "crash-landing" was what was planned all along, right? It was a controlled impact by an impactor probe... the whole point of the mission was to strike the moon at high velocity and release underground debris from a crater that could be analyzed for various substances including water/ice. And it was a resounding success.

                        • 9 votes
                        #12 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:03 PM EST
                        Roryanne

                        Gee, golly, Mr. spaceman...tell me more!

                        I'm a huge fan of the American Space program, and I consider the astronauts to be American heroes.

                        Obama doesn't need anyone bashing from others. His words and deeds are enough to show his allegiance is not with the country he's supposed to be the president of.

                        • 1 vote
                        #12.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:11 PM EST
                        Jarandhel

                        I'm a huge fan of the American Space program, and I consider the astronauts to be American heroes.

                        Apparently not, or you'd know that this mission was conducted in conjunction with NASA. Obama was congratulating India for their part in a joint mission between the two countries space programs.

                        Obama doesn't need anyone bashing from others. His words and deeds are enough to show his allegiance is not with the country he's supposed to be the president of.

                        Well, thank you Senator McCarthy. Now that you've reported your findings on President Obama, is there anyone else whose loyalty to this nation you and the House Un-American Activities Committee would care to call into question?

                        • 8 votes
                        #12.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:25 PM EST
                        trm2008

                        His words and deeds are enough to show his allegiance is not with the country he's supposed to be the president of.

                        I've heard it all now. Irrational hatred is corrosive to the soul.

                        • 9 votes
                        #12.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:29 PM EST
                        Roryanne

                        I know it's hard for you to accept, but Obama not only disappointed those who didn't vote for him, the consensus among those who did believe in the hope and change, are also dissapointed.

                        I did know the mission was basically NASA's, but apparently Obama didn't know or as usual, didn't want to give NASA any credit. He just wants them to reach out to muslims.

                        I can't even type that without it sounding insane.

                        When you find a US president, other than Carter who is the biggest anti-semite on the planet, who has been less concerned with America than any other country, WHILE he is POTUS, get back to me.

                          #12.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:30 PM EST
                          Chief CRD

                          anyone else whose loyalty to this nation you and the House Un-American Activities Committee would care to call into question?

                          Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Rush Limbaugh, Barbara Boxer... JMHO, you asked.

                          • 1 vote
                          #12.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:31 PM EST
                          Roryanne

                          At least we agree on Pelosi and Reid. They should be arrested on their Drop Dead Troops bill alone. CA, does it matter anymore? The state's completely broke, and Jerry Brown's still in charge.

                          Don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, so I wouldn't know about that one.

                            #12.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:36 PM EST
                            Jarandhel

                            I know it's hard for you to accept, but Obama not only disappointed those who didn't vote for him, the consensus among those who did believe in the hope and change, are also dissapointed.

                            Yes, we are; disappointed that he and the Democrats in congress caved to so many Republican demands in the name of compromise rather than actually enacting the progressive agenda for which he was elected. Obama was elected on a groundswell of support by young, liberal voters but he has governed as a right-leaning moderate.

                            I did know the mission was basically NASA's, but apparently Obama didn't know or as usual, didn't want to give NASA any credit.

                            No, not "basically NASA's". A joint mission. NASA provided one of the 11 payloads for the mission. The IRSO carried out the mission. They did the heavy lifting on this one, and he credited them as appropriate.

                            He just wants them to reach out to muslims.

                            I can't even type that without it sounding insane.

                            That's because you're parroting a talking point which is insane. Bob Jacobs, NASA's assistant administrator for public affairs, has already said publicly that Bolden was speaking about NASA's priorities for outreach, not for their overall mission which remains one of science, aeronautics, and space exploration.

                            When you find a US president, other than Carter who is the biggest anti-semite on the planet, who has been less concerned with America than any other country, WHILE he is POTUS, get back to me.

                            http://whatthe@!$%#hasobamadonesofar.com/

                            Seems like he's been fairly concerned with America to me.

                            • 8 votes
                            #12.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:54 PM EST
                            Chief CRD

                            Rush is, unfortunately, on sometimes for about 10 minutes as I leave work. I don't get him much (thank goodness), but from what he says, he has 3 priorities: 1- Rush Limbaugh; 2- Rush Limbaugh; 3- the Hard right Republican party. Nothing else, including the USA, counts for him.

                            • 5 votes
                            #12.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:54 PM EST
                            trm2008

                            the consensus among those who did believe in the hope and change, are also dissapointed.

                            I'm glad you now proclaim to speak for everyone. Again, you confuse opinion with fact.

                            I call in to question the loyalty of the Republican party who have done absolutely nothing for the last (nearly) two years to help this country because their top priority was getting re-elected.

                            • 9 votes
                            #12.9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:08 PM EST
                            Roryanne

                            The democrats had control for for the past, what 6 years.

                            They soon became irrelevant under Obama, so how could the minority in the house and senate do anything?

                              #12.10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:46 PM EST
                              Jarandhel

                              The Republicans spent their time in the minority filibustering everything. 18% of all filibusters in the last 90 years took place in just the last 3 years.

                              • 5 votes
                              #12.11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:07 PM EST
                              trm2008

                              4 years but why be factual. 2 of those years under a Republican president.

                              • 6 votes
                              #12.12 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:09 PM EST
                              Roryanne

                              trm2008, the dems had control until last Tuesday.

                              If you blame republicans when they're in, you have to blame the dems when they're in, unless like I mentioned the rulebook says otherwise. I'd like to see that book.

                                #12.13 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:16 PM EST
                                Jarandhel

                                Roryanne:

                                The Dems did have control until last Tuesday. But the election in which they took the majority was 2006. So, as trm2008, 4 years not 6. And 2 of those years under a Republican president with veto power, while not having anything close to a veto-proof majority.

                                The Republicans, when they were in power prior to the changeover of January 2007, had a Republican president who for 6 years had only picked up his veto pen once. The remaining 11 bills Bush vetoed during his time in office happened after the Democrats took power.

                                And you still haven't addressed the Republican's record level of filibusters since the 2006 elections... again, 18% of all filibusters in the last 90 years have been done in the past 3 years, by Republicans, since they became the minority party.

                                • 7 votes
                                #12.14 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:31 PM EST
                                Little Sure Shot

                                I view it as merely a bad choice of wording.

                                  #12.15 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:58 PM EST
                                  Reply
                                  Roryanne

                                  trm2008, the pointing and shouting: hatemonger, racist, bigot...?

                                  You really need some new material. That's all I see from you everrywhere on here, and not just on my posts.

                                  No doubt you do the same thing on FB and Myspace, safe within the confines of your social network, on the internet. You'd love my theory on that one.

                                    Reply#13 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 1:33 PM EST
                                    trm2008

                                    trm2008, the pointing and shouting: hatemonger, racist, bigot

                                    What in the world are you ranting about? I never called you any of those. Seriously, you take this whole thing way too seriously. Grow up.

                                    • 7 votes
                                    #13.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:10 PM EST
                                    Roryanne

                                    From this article, its hard to believe anyone could be so bigoted.

                                    trm2008

                                    Funny, I'm not surprised at all.

                                    #2.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 12:07 PM EST

                                    -----------

                                    No, of course you didn't call me bigoted.

                                      #13.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:43 PM EST
                                      trm2008

                                      No I didn't, did I. I simply agreed with another person's observation.

                                      Again we find agreement.

                                      You started attacking people in your second post. It seems to be a common thread on your articles.

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #13.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:14 PM EST
                                      Roryanne

                                      I understand, you don't think the crack about the anti-christ warranted a response in kind. I'm used to it. Must be in a book of rules somewhere.

                                        #13.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:10 PM EST
                                        Reply
                                        HollyKl

                                        IMHO, people who dislike Obama will find fault with anything he says, no matter what it is. This is yet another example. Give it a rest already. We really need to focus on more important things than this.

                                        • 6 votes
                                        Reply#14 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:17 PM EST
                                        Roryanne

                                        This wasn't so much as pointing out something Obama said, and call me a racist if you like, it has to do with my pride in the American Space Program. Obama made himself sound like a clueless dork, when he took that away from NASA.

                                          #14.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:40 PM EST
                                          HollyKl

                                          I wouldn't call you a racist. Not my style. I just personally think you're reading more into his comment than is warranted. So we agree to disagree...

                                          • 5 votes
                                          #14.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:49 PM EST
                                          Roryanne

                                          I wasn't reading into it, I was comparing the attitude he has toward their technology and that of his own country. Never mind, if you didn't get it in the post, you won't get it in my comment.

                                            #14.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:08 PM EST
                                            HollyKl

                                            Actually, I did get that. I simply don't agree with your assessment of Obama's attitude.

                                            • 3 votes
                                            #14.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:24 PM EST
                                            Reply
                                            JOKERSWILD1

                                            Obama is the worst President In American History IMHO, People who like Obama will find something positive to say for all the the political blunders he causes on a daily basis,

                                            • 1 vote
                                            Reply#15 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:27 PM EST
                                            Polka14

                                            Not as bad as Bush II.

                                            • 6 votes
                                            #15.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:31 PM EST
                                            JOKERSWILD1

                                            At least I felt safe when Bush II was president, he would never of bowed to a Saudi king, Obama is a joke

                                              #15.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:37 PM EST
                                              Polka14

                                              Not safe to foreigners thanks to Bush's wars of aggression. Not safe to Americans either thanks to his attacks on our civil liberties.

                                              • 6 votes
                                              #15.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:41 PM EST
                                              JOKERSWILD1

                                              Wars of aggression , HAHAHAAAA I suppose he should have just said "OH WELL" when 911 happened, He took the initiative to stop terrorism,and you fault him ..typical liberal.

                                                #15.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:48 PM EST
                                                Polka14

                                                He should have done something to stop it. He ignored it, then invaded Afghanistan and only succeeded in destroying their government and not destroying the enemies that actually destroyed the World Trade Center.

                                                • 3 votes
                                                #15.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:53 PM EST
                                                JOKERSWILD1

                                                The middle east has been fighting for decades , there will never be peace there - I can imagine it now, they would twiddle their thumbs after a week of non-violence, then they would go blow something up..he took the fight to the terrorists ..not vice versa

                                                  #15.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 2:56 PM EST
                                                  Polka14

                                                  No he didn't. Bush II is a terrorist, a war criminal and a monster. He sent thousands of American troops to die in the Afghan wastelands and for nothing. Al-Qaeda is still out there.

                                                  • 2 votes
                                                  #15.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:03 PM EST
                                                  JOKERSWILD1

                                                  Obama sure isn't doing anything about them,he's cradling the Muslim values and bowing to kings,

                                                  Bush a terrorist that's just plain ludicrous , are you a communist ?

                                                    #15.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:10 PM EST
                                                    trm2008

                                                    Are you a re-register?

                                                    • 4 votes
                                                    #15.9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:15 PM EST
                                                    Polka14

                                                    Our president bowing to anyone is absurd but what about Reagan? I thought he bowed to the Japanese Emperor.

                                                    • 2 votes
                                                    #15.10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:21 PM EST
                                                    JOKERSWILD1

                                                    He was just checking his shoelaces

                                                    • 1 vote
                                                    #15.11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:22 PM EST
                                                    Roryanne

                                                    Jokerswild1: Had to step away for a while, sorry to leave you alone in this fracas.

                                                    Polka: war of aggression? The only time I ever heard that before Bush was president was a long time ago on a show where the woman who said it was toothless and smoked a cornpipe!

                                                    Funny!

                                                    Polka, also, are you related to Cindy Sheehan or Hanoi Jane?

                                                      #15.12 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:05 PM EST
                                                      Polka14

                                                      war of aggression? The only time I ever heard that before Bush was president was a long time ago on a show where the woman who said it was toothless and smoked a cornpipe!

                                                      I don't know what you are talking about. Speaking the truth about the unjust wars of neo-imperialism in Iraq and Afghanistan is mainly done by liberals and we have our teeth intact.

                                                      • 2 votes
                                                      #15.13 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:11 PM EST
                                                      Reply
                                                      JOKERSWILD1

                                                      Huh? I don't even know what that means - if you mean am I proud to be an American who holds his freedoms in the highest of regard then yes.

                                                      If you mean was I a democrat turned republican then NO.

                                                        Reply#16 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:22 PM EST
                                                        Jarandhel

                                                        A "re-register" is someone who has previously been registered on newsvine, banned, and who then registers under a new name.

                                                        Please note, I'm not saying you are, I'm just defining the term used in trm2008's question that you didn't understand.

                                                        • 5 votes
                                                        #16.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:26 PM EST
                                                        JOKERSWILD1

                                                        No I have never been on here under a different screen name, and politics get me fired up if you think something I have said is deemed ban worthy I Apologize, All I said Is Obama is the worst president and added IMHO

                                                          #16.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:34 PM EST
                                                          HollyKl

                                                          jokerswild

                                                          You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Though I would be interested to have you go through every president in this country's history and explain how Obama qualifies as the worst after a mere two years in office. I think there may be one or two others who are more deserving of that title.

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                                                          #16.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:39 PM EST
                                                          JOKERSWILD1

                                                          I can't remember the news source but it stated Obama had the worst approval rating of any president in history, the recent elections should magnify how the people feel about him and his agenda.

                                                            #16.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:44 PM EST
                                                            HollyKl

                                                            Well, if I may, I would simply point out that worst approval rating is not equivalent to worst president in terms of performance. One assesses public sentiment at a particular point in time, the other has to do with accomplishments. I think the jury is still out on what Obama will be able to accomplish while he holds office.

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                                                            #16.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:50 PM EST
                                                            Jarandhel

                                                            Jokerswild1:

                                                            Presidential approval ratings were introduced in the 1930s under FDR. They're a relatively new invention, so "the worst approval rating of any president in history" represents a rather short history.

                                                            More to the point, though, Obama does not have the worst approval rating in that period. Neither in terms of his lowest overall approval rating (41%. The worst recorded was 22% under Truman) nor in terms of his average approval rating (53%. The worst recorded was 45.4% again under Truman).

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                                                            #16.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:51 PM EST
                                                            JOKERSWILD1

                                                            Maybe they said in recent history - wonder what Truman did ?

                                                            anyway I wasn't around when Truman was President .I hope for the sake of this country Obama does do something that leaves a legacy that he accomplished something .

                                                              #16.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 3:56 PM EST
                                                              Roryanne

                                                              I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to accomplish anything we'll WANT to remember.

                                                                #16.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:02 PM EST
                                                                Polka14

                                                                Obama was the first African American president. Maybe that is not good enough for some people but it was good enough for the majority.

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                                                                #16.9 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:12 PM EST
                                                                Jarandhel

                                                                Maybe they said in recent history - wonder what Truman did ?

                                                                Take your pick, really... there were a number of scandals under his administration, from senior officials (including Mrs. Truman) taking fur coats and deep freezers for favors to Sen. McCarthy starting a witch-hunt through his administration on baseless charges that it had been infiltrated by the Soviets. He also championed civil rights against opposition from Southern Democrats of that era, including desegregating the armed forces through an executive order. All of these combined to make him very unpopular in his time.

                                                                anyway I wasn't around when Truman was President .I hope for the sake of this country Obama does do something that leaves a legacy that he accomplished something .

                                                                I'd say he has: http://whatthe@!$%#hasobamadonesofar.com/

                                                                The question is, how much of his legacy will Republicans leave intact when they have stated their top priorities are dismantling the legislation that passed under the Democratic-majority congress and seeing Obama defeated in 2012?

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                                                                #16.10 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 5:40 PM EST
                                                                JOKERSWILD1

                                                                I clicked on your link for what he has done - it had a 404 error message - pretty much sums it up.

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                                                                #16.11 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:52 PM EST
                                                                Jarandhel

                                                                Jokerswild1:

                                                                I don't know what site you went to, but the site I linked to was not showing a 404 message when I posted it nor is it showing one now. I suppose some of us are just on the wrong page when it comes to what Obama has done. And you're right, that does pretty much sum it up.

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                                                                #16.12 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:26 PM EST
                                                                Jarandhel

                                                                Jokerswild1:

                                                                I'm sorry, that was an uncharitable response that you probably didn't deserve. I think I'm getting far too jaded with politics; I expect replies like that to be people literally pretending not to see sources that contradict their beliefs anymore. But I think I just realized what actually happened in this case. By any chance, do you have the profanity filter turned on for this site? The URL I linked to contains profanity in the text of the link itself, and the filter tried to convert it to "@!$%#" in order to censor it. There's apparently a "PG-rated" alternative link to the site at http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/

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                                                                #16.13 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:45 PM EST
                                                                trm2008

                                                                can't remember the news source but it stated Obama had the worst approval rating of any president in history,

                                                                Bull @!$%#. Obama's approval rating is about the same as Reagan's at this point in his presidency, and higher than a lot of other presidents'.

                                                                http://people-press.org/report/668/

                                                                http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm

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                                                                #16.14 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 9:00 AM EST
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                                                                johnny angel

                                                                Interesting how the president's dialog with an Indian Alie is viewed as negative. If it were Israel, the right would sing the same song. India deserves praise for its accomplishments after decades of theft by our ancestors.

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                                                                Reply#17 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:54 PM EST
                                                                Roryanne

                                                                Polka14, yes it was historic and for that I was glad, however, the legacy he will leave behind, not so good.

                                                                I wish Condoleeza Rice would have won. An intelligent, conservative who was never afraid to say exactly what she thought.

                                                                McCain's a republican, but he's also a progressive. Obama won because he was the lesser of two evils, or so we thought, at the time.

                                                                  Reply#18 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 7:56 PM EST
                                                                  Polka14

                                                                  I would never vote for Rice to be president. I would never vote for a conservative or a Republican person. She supported Bush. In my opinion, that makes her a war criminal as guilty as Bush himself. Same for Colon Powell. Rice may be intelligent but she is not a woman of principle.

                                                                  If McCain was president, we would have certainly bombed Iran by now.

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                                                                  #18.1 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:06 PM EST
                                                                  Roryanne

                                                                  No worries with Obama in charge. Iran will bomb us before we bomb them. Obama just likes having conversations with those who want to wipe us, and Israel, off the face of the map.

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                                                                  #18.2 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:27 PM EST
                                                                  Polka14

                                                                  I say go ahead and bomb us. It would be nice to see the effects of a hydrogen bomb on an Iranian city when we retaliate. But seriously, even Iran is not that crazy. I think they should have nukes for their own defense though so America will not attack them.

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                                                                  #18.3 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:37 PM EST
                                                                  Roryanne

                                                                  We wouldn't retaliate even if they did, at least while Obama's president. Google Bernadine Doehrn, hamas, and the Flotilla raid, and find out why.

                                                                    #18.4 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 9:56 PM EST
                                                                    Polka14

                                                                    You have no reason to say that. We would retaliate if attacked. The American people would demand it.

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                                                                    #18.5 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:27 PM EST
                                                                    Roryanne

                                                                    Since when does Obama give Americans anything they demand? I guess things might change now since he saw what happened to the progressives in the House. Tuesday night, we made our demands loud and clear...and yet he's still clueless.

                                                                      #18.6 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:38 PM EST
                                                                      Polka14

                                                                      You don't know what you are talking about. Most Americans desired health care reform and it could not be done thanks to Republicans and democrats in red states. And we lost because the youth vote did not show up to the polls. If giving into American demands means listening to those old white racists known as the Tea Party, then I hope Obama completely ignores Americans.

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                                                                      #18.7 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:41 PM EST
                                                                      Roryanne

                                                                      You mean the MTV and Comedy Central interviews didn't do it this time around. No Hollywood types with their rock the votes and yes we can videos?

                                                                      One thing Obama did wrong was to send Clinton and Michelle out to campaign. PA sent them a resounding NO. That had to hurt!

                                                                      First Specter, than Sestak's bribe not going the way they wanted, and now PA has a conservative Senator AND Governor. Remember Specter: I switched parties so I could get re...elect...ed.

                                                                      Not a member of the tea party, so not sure who that was aimed at.

                                                                      Obama has completely ignored America; that's why most of the ones he campaigned for, lost, escept Harry Reid and Jerry Brown, but CA will soon be the first federally funded state before long.

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                                                                      #18.8 - Mon Nov 8, 2010 10:49 PM EST
                                                                      johnny angel

                                                                      Rory, to suggest the president would not retaliate against an Iranian attack is nonsense. What planet are you on?

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                                                                      #18.9 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:56 PM EST
                                                                      Roryanne

                                                                      I've not only asked what planet I'm on since Obama's been president, I've also asked what country is Obama the president of again?

                                                                      He won't even protect the citizens of Arizona, what makes you think he cares to protect the citizens of the whole country?

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                                                                      #18.10 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:59 PM EST
                                                                      Roryanne

                                                                      the president's dialog with an Indian Alie is viewed as negative

                                                                      Here's something you may not know: the statement above that you made is not really the reason for the article nor point of the article.

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                                                                      #18.11 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 6:08 PM EST
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                                                                      JoMan

                                                                      Welcome to a Roryanne seed - where she does most the posting and mocks all.

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                                                                      Reply#19 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:58 AM EST
                                                                      JOKERSWILD1

                                                                      I find Roryanne rather insightful and witty

                                                                        Reply#20 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 8:06 AM EST
                                                                        JoMan

                                                                        Some people like Big Time Wrestling, too, for the cultural aspects.

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                                                                        #20.1 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 11:34 AM EST
                                                                        Roryanne

                                                                        Thanks JoMan, but I think I can handle the welcomes on my article, not seed, but thanks for the effort.

                                                                        Some people like to confuse fact with opinion, because they don't know the difference.

                                                                          #20.2 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 11:41 AM EST
                                                                          JOKERSWILD1

                                                                          See there's the witty I was talking about - well played Roryanne

                                                                            #20.3 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 11:49 AM EST
                                                                            Roryanne

                                                                            It's the only way to answer. LOL

                                                                              #20.4 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 12:06 PM EST
                                                                              JoMan

                                                                              Oh witty as heck, considering how many agree with me.

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                                                                              #20.5 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 8:37 PM EST
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                                                                              JOKERSWILD1

                                                                              Those spammers sure are pesky

                                                                                Reply#24 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:50 PM EST
                                                                                Roryanne

                                                                                Whoa, I didn't even see them. LOL How'd they get deleted so fast?

                                                                                  Reply#25 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST
                                                                                  JOKERSWILD1

                                                                                  I reported them

                                                                                    #25.1 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST
                                                                                    Roryanne

                                                                                    Oh, okay, thanks! You are fast!

                                                                                      #25.2 - Tue Nov 9, 2010 2:00 PM EST
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                                                                                      Gnosis13

                                                                                      Stange. I thought a space crash would have earned more praise from us then this. Its a crash... in space. What is not to like?

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                                                                                      Reply#27 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:28 PM EST
                                                                                      IronLung

                                                                                      Bruce Willis wasn't there, so we're not interested lol

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                                                                                      #27.1 - Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:31 PM EST
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